Cool, only 9 tunes this week ...

Oddly, I have an idea as to what the theme may be, but no idea where to start listening in order to prove my thesis.

I feel like I know one but I can't remember what it is.

Good god, man!



Actually, I do know one of the jams, but I'm guessing it's the easiest of the bunch.

I got roped into going to a show tonight, so I won't be able to devote any time to this until late tonight or even tomorrow. I'll definitely take a crack at it though if you sleuths haven't solved it before I get a chance to dig in. Good luck everybody!

6/24/16 - Chicago, IL - Cities
7/8/16 - Mansfield, MA - Tweezer
6/26/16 Noblesville, IN - Water in the Sky
7/2/16 - Saratoga, NY - Jesus Just Left Chicago
1/1/17 - New York, NY - Ghost
10/30/16 - Las Vegas, NV - Maze
7/6/16 - Portland, ME - Divided Sky
7/14/ 16 - George, WA - Down With Disease
7/18/16 - San Francisco, CA - Scent of a Mule

Theme: All of these jams take place IN THE FUTURE!

They all come from sound checks?!

I've got a couple of them! Getting closer! PLEASE NO ONE GET IT! haha i want to win my first one

I have 6 of the 9 but don't have any good ideas for the last three...

^^ I have 5 now. Race to the finish!

I have at least one. It's actually one of my favorites!

7/9 but absolutely stumped on one of them.

can we share which number clips we've gotten? I won't yet but I have six now and it's be interesting to see if some of us are struggling with the same ones

Sure, share whatever information you want as long it's not any part of the answer. But in doing so now instead of after it's been solved, I'm not sure what you're hoping to actually get out of it, as that would encourage trading of answers which is definitely not allowed.

True, I guess being at 6/9 I'm just really curious to know which ones MikeG and CDTeacher are stuck on

@runlikecarini said:

can we share which number clips we've gotten? I won't yet but I have six now and it's be interesting to see if some of us are struggling with the same ones

Judging by that hint (one that's missing audio), I bet we are.

I spent a little time listening last night after the show, and once I had the theme the answers started coming pretty fast. But I was too tired and had to go to bed after finding only five of them.

I agree that it would be interesting to know if we've all found the same ones. I feel like I found the five easiest ones, so I'm guessing yes. It's tempting to share which clip numbers we've found, but Pete's probably right...that could easily lead to answer trading. I'd be happy to compare notes after it's over though.

I got 4/9 last night and haven't had a minute today to even try to figure the rest out. I'll give it a go tonight. Good luck all.

@schvice said:

@runlikecarini said:

can we share which number clips we've gotten? I won't yet but I have six now and it's be interesting to see if some of us are struggling with the same ones

Judging by that hint (one that's missing audio), I bet we are.

I spent a little time listening last night after the show, and once I had the theme the answers started coming pretty fast. But I was too tired and had to go to bed after finding only five of them.

I agree that it would be interesting to know if we've all found the same ones. I feel like I found the five easiest ones, so I'm guessing yes. It's tempting to share which clip numbers we've found, but Pete's probably right...that could easily lead to answer trading. I'd be happy to compare notes after it's over though.

Exactly. Anyone who's gotten all but two is almost assuredly missing the two alluded to by Snoop. And there's one thing I don't think anyone has realized about today's hint...

@uctweezer said:And there's one thing I don't think anyone has realized about today's hint...[/quote]

first I started listening to every show marijuana has been smoked at. You can imagine how far I got with that....

second I started searching for every show(s) in Long Beach.

third and most importantly, I discovered the hint clearly wants us to check out every show when Cactus wore a scarf!

@uctweezer said:

@schvice said:

@runlikecarini said:

can we share which number clips we've gotten? I won't yet but I have six now and it's be interesting to see if some of us are struggling with the same ones

Judging by that hint (one that's missing audio), I bet we are.

I spent a little time listening last night after the show, and once I had the theme the answers started coming pretty fast. But I was too tired and had to go to bed after finding only five of them.

I agree that it would be interesting to know if we've all found the same ones. I feel like I found the five easiest ones, so I'm guessing yes. It's tempting to share which clip numbers we've found, but Pete's probably right...that could easily lead to answer trading. I'd be happy to compare notes after it's over though.

Exactly. Anyone who's gotten all but two is almost assuredly missing the two alluded to by Snoop. And there's one thing I don't think anyone has realized about today's hint...

2 left, but I got the soundcheck right away.

You just gotta poke around...

Fairly certain I know the remaining songs, just not specific jams. I hope someone can get this one, though!

still got 3 left and starting to get discouraged. started off so strong.....

Pretty sure I have both alluded to in the hint but I'm still missing two.

So many of you are so close -- that doesn't happen too frequently... this one's coming down to the wire:

I've got 4 guaranteed (title&date), and know the name of a 5th, but I'm struggling with the other 4

bang!!

Theme: Dog songs

1 - Dog Log 5/7/94 (soundcheck)
2- Runaway Jim 6/16/95
3 - Shaggy Dog 9/2/87
4 - Dogs Stole Things 7/12/03
5 - McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters 5/3/85 (not on phishtracks)
6- The Dogs 8/21/15
7- No Dogs Allowed 7/23/88
8- Harpua 8/21/87
9 -Dog Face Boy 12/2/97

@TwiceBitten said:

bang!!

Theme: Dog songs

1 - Dog Log 5/7/94 (soundcheck)
2- Runaway Jim 6/16/95
3 - Shaggy Dog 9/2/87
4 - Dogs Stole Things 7/12/03
5 - McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters 5/3/85 (not on phishtracks)
6- The Dogs 8/21/15
7- No Dogs Allowed 7/23/88
8- Harpua 8/21/87
9 -Dog Face Boy 12/2/97

Nicely done!

I can confirm that the six I had are correct. I haven't checked, but I'd wager the other three are correct too.. @TwiceBitten knows his old, weird Phish.

1. 5/7/94 Dog Log Soundcheck

3. 9/2/87 Shaggy Dog

4. 7/12/03 Dogs Stole Things

6. 8/21/15 The Dogs

7. 7/23/88 No Dogs Allowed

9. 12/2/97 Dog Faced Boy

I may be wrong but I have a different date for clip 7.

Theme is Dog Songs:

1. Dog Log (5/7/94) - soundcheck
2. Runaway Jim (6/16/95)
3 - Shaggy Dog 9/2/87
4 - Dogs Stole Things 7/12/03
5 - McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters (5/3/85) - not on phishtracks
6- The Dogs 8/21/15
7- No Dogs Allowed 8/04/88
8- Harpua 8/21/87
9 -Dog Face Boy 12/2/97

Regardless this week was fun. Thanks ucpete!!!

^^ yeah i guess i was wrong with my no dogs allowed date. oh well. I was having trouble with 2, 5 and 9. I failed to ID the runaway jim but i knew it was a runaway jim. Also think I listened to that mgcrupp and didnt hear the clip. Also knew the last one was a fastish dog face boy but had no idea where to start looking for that. Not that anyone cares about this but this was the closest I've come on my own to one of these so I can't wait for next week!

I realized that last post could potentially have been a game-ruining spoiler....so I went ahead and confirmed the rest:

2. 6/16/95 Runaway Jim

5. 5/3/85 McGrupp (segment starts at 7:32)

8. 8/21/87 Harpua

Nice MJM, @ucpete! Great win, @TwiceBitten!

Nice win @twicebitten!
It was funny I was looking for the first jam and stumbled into the 9th jam, Dog Face Boy. Then eventually I realized The Dogs jam and it was on. I started listening to a bunch of those mid 90's Runaway Jim's too for the 2nd jam and was saying to myself @uctweezer wouldn't torture us with one of those 20min plus Jims. Nope! He went for the 30min Jim. That's just cruel!
Awesome MJM! Gonna be tough to check in next week on Memorial Day.

So what was the thing about the hint you thought we might be missing?

Were we in fact missing it?

@TwiceBitten said:

bang!!

Theme: Dog songs

1 - Dog Log 5/7/94 (soundcheck)
2- Runaway Jim 6/16/95
3 - Shaggy Dog 9/2/87
4 - Dogs Stole Things 7/12/03
5 - McGrupp and the Watchful Hosemasters 5/3/85 (not on phishtracks)
6- The Dogs 8/21/15
7- No Dogs Allowed 7/23/88
8- Harpua 8/21/87
9 -Dog Face Boy 12/2/97

Nice! I was missing 2 and 8. I had them reverse for awhile.

@schvice said:

So what was the thing about the hint you thought we might be missing?

Were we in fact missing it?

Click the Snoop picture.

@MikeG said:

@schvice said:

So what was the thing about the hint you thought we might be missing?

Were we in fact missing it?

Click the Snoop picture.

D'oh! I even hovered the cursor over the picture to see the url, but I assumed pastebin was just a photo hosting site.

You said you had 7/9 and both from the hint but were missing two. next post you solved it.... Would you mind sharing your thought process from that point or at least which two you struggling with. Just curious, and congrats on the well deserved win!

I had trouble with #1

this was a lot of fun! First time I've really tried a MMJ.

For me, the first one I nailed was The Dogs, then I got Dogs Stole Things.

At first I thought No Dogs Allowed was Divided Sky (which is it in a way) so I thought they were all songs that start with the letter D. That led me astray for a while. Then I got Shaggy Dog and new it had to be Dogs related so I solve the No Dogs Allowed. Figured their had to be a Dog Faced Boy in there somewhere but couldn't find it. Thought about Harpua but didn't think it would be possible to find it. McGrupp and Runaway Jim ... I wasn't smart enough to think about those two. doh!

I was also still missing 2 and 8. Imagine what could have been accomplished with the collective man-hours that likely went into this puzzle!

@runlikecarini asked "Would you mind sharing your thought process"

I knew the song right away for #3, #4, #6, #7 & #9. So I focused on what I thought were the harder ones first, thinking if I can get these then I'll spend the time listening to 50 versions of Dogs Stole Things. I knew the soundcheck tune must have been Dog Log...used youtube to find that. I honestly lucked out because I knew that the 5/3/85 McGrupp wasn't on phishtracks. Also I could hear that it had two guitars and keys faintly in the background, so there weren't really a lot of options for what this could be (this is actually Page's first show by the way). It's on the jam chart in yellow and I remember having to download the show in order to hear it. Where I bet a lot of people ran into trouble is the confusion around it being listed but not actually available. If you search songs for McGrupp it doesn't show up because the preceding 18 minute jam is labeled Whipping Post > McGrupp but it cuts just as McGrupp starts. I think I actually even wrote to phishtracks guy a few years ago but he never corrected this. So yeah I found this before I saw the pastebin hint (which I did eventually find). I imagine this is the one that was really hard for people, so once I got that one I put in the work to get the rest. The jamming chart helped me get the version of Dog Faced Boy, but for #3, 4, 6 and 7 I just had to listen to every version until I found the proper clip. The hardest two for me were #2 6/16/95 Jim and #8 8/21/87 Harpua. I knew those had to be the tunes I was searching for because I was running low on dog songs. It's just that #2 could have come from any jam and #8 didn't sound like Harpua. I actually tried listening to a bunch of ambient pieces from Harpuas for #2 (thought for a second it was the end of the Clifford Ball version) before I decided to switch tactics and check out long versions of Jim. There were no drums in that clip so it was pretty easy to find starting at the end of all the major versions and scanning through backwards. Once I got that, I knew Harpua was the last song I needed, so I started from the first version on phishtracks, and hey guess what? Ian's Farm is the first recorded version available on the site. Voila!

You probably didn't need all that info, but there it is!

Oh one thing to add for @uctweezer, the hint was actually somewhat misleading because two of the jams are not on phishtracks, had to go to youtube for this one. phishtracks doesn't even have the first set of the Bomb Factory, though phish.in does, and neither have the soundcheck.

Thank you Twicebitten! I was definitely thrown off by the Mcgrupp. I heard two guitars in that clip as well so I knew it was early. Plus the clip was from the jam section towards the end that they ended up making more into a composed section not too long after the debut. But I listened to that whipping post > mcgrupp like five times wondering where the hell the mcgrupp started. Never downloaded the show though so that was my problem. And I never would've found that Jim. Ever

@TwiceBitten said:

Oh one thing to add for @uctweezer, the hint was actually somewhat misleading because two of the jams are not on phishtracks, had to go to youtube for this one. phishtracks doesn't even have the first set of the Bomb Factory, though phish.in does, and neither have the soundcheck.

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To be fair, I didn't say there *weren't* two tracks missing from PhishTracks, just that one was a Soundcheck (which are almost entirely absent from PhishTracks anyway) and the other one was *listed* as there but without audio. That in conjunction with the near outright disclosure of the theme with Snoop on the picture, and the Easter Egg, makes me feel the hint was fair but not too revealing. Plus, so many people almost solved it and you got it anyway so I don't think it was too misleading or unfair. Just my $0.02 though; I'm always open to constructive criticism. I don't want the hints to be so easy that any schmuck can roll up on Tuesday and get the answer without trying (obviously never gonna be the case with a 9 parter, but you catch my drift!), but I also don't want to screw people over by making the hints too cryptic or waste people's time. Honestly, finding the sweet spot for the hints has been a lot harder than coming up with the themes and the clips.

you're doing a fantastic job! keep it up.